Midgam conducted a poll of 790 people with a 3.5% margin of error that was taken out for Channel 2 and was released on March 4 2015.
Current Knesset seats in [brackets]
24 [20] Zionist Union (Labor-Livni)
23 [18] Likud
13 [11] The Joint (Arab) List
12 [20] Yesh Atid
12 [11] Bayit Yehudi
08 [02] Kulanu (Kahlon+Kadima)
06 [13] Yisrael Beitenu
06 [10] Shas
06 [07] Yahadut Hatorah/UTJ
06 [06] Meretz
04 [02] Yachad (Yishai+Chetboun+Marzel)
65 [63] Right-Religious-Kahlon (Parties that have not ruled out nominating Netanyahu in Phase 2)
55 [57] Center-Left-Arab (Parties that have ruled out nominating Netanyahu in Phase 2)
Additional Questions:
Did the speech strengthen or weaken your appreciation of Netanyahu?
44% Strengthened
43% Did not influence
12% Weakened
Was the speech meant to prevent a deal with Iran or political advancement?
31% Prevent a deal
30% Both
29% Mostly political advancement
Will the speech change the chances of an agreement with Iran?
53% No influence
26% Weaken the chance of an agreement
6% Increase the chance of an agreement
Who is most suited to serve as Prime Minister?
47% Netanyahu, 28% Herzog, 21% Don’t know, 4% Both are equally suited
Just curious– do any of these Bibi vs Herzog “who is best for pm” questions list Livni too? Might be interesting given that there’s a rotation agreement. Any consensus on whether Herzog’s rotation agreement with Livni is helping or hurting?
I just can’t believe it: how can people’s appreciation on netanyahu be strengthened after his propagandistic and harmful speech?! has the 44% got eyes and ears? I will not be surprised if Netanyahu, after years of nothing and scandals, will win also the upcoming elections: israel’s citizens don’t want to open their eyes.
I find your comments astonishing, what on earth has the left got to offer? Poor on economics,Poor on religion and tradition, Poor on defence. You want the Jewish people to put our trust on security and defence on Herzog, do you hear what you are saying? Nice guy but I wouldn’t want him leading my troops. This is a tough neighborhood, Its not Switzerland or
Luxembourg on our borders. and on top of that you’ve added Livini to your team.
What is difficult to believe is that the right – religious block are not more clearly in the lead.
But then I have scepticism about some of these polls and believe they are, and I will hold that position until and unless the final results say otherwise.
Listen, i’m not saying that Herzog is the best candidate, I can’t say that because I speak only with the facts. And the facts tell us that if you think that our primary problem is the security, or the foreign policy, or defense policy, you can NOT vote Bibi. Let’s take for example Bibi and Iran’s nuclear program: he said this day in Washington that Iran will soon be able to attack us with is nuclear bomb. He said the SAME thing in 1993, when he said “Iran will have bomb by 1999”, i.e. 16 years ago. My question is: does this man have the ideas clear? In the last days more than 180 former security commanders said that his speech will bring Iran closer to the bomb. And what about his foreign policies which will bring us to an international isolation, also from our best ally who finances our wars, the USA?
He never said “Iran will have the bomb by ___” He said “Iran will have the bomb by ____ unless something is done”. Something has been done several times to thwart their efforts. I personally think he is a bit overly paranoid about this, but factually speaking…
“Poor on economics,Poor on religion and tradition, Poor on defence. You want the Jewish people to put our trust on security and defence on Herzog”
As opposed to the Haredim and National-Religious who put the Jewish People’s future in the hands of God — because that really turned out well for us in 1939, right?
Israel is in a tough neigbhourhood. Israel is also surrounded by a much more numerous enemy. Israel’s founding generation knew how to fight but they also knew how to act intelligently (notice, I didn’t say “with restraint”); they knew not to make Israel a partisan wedge issue in the United States; they knew Israel’s strength lay not only on its military strength but on the people’s solidarity and on democracy — both of which this right wing government has been undermining. Being in a tough neighbourhood means knowing when to defend yourself but also avoiding unnecessary provocation — like Housing Minister Uri Ariel speaking about demolishing the Dome of the Rock.
Talking tough, saying Palestinians don’t exist, etc. etc. isn’t a policy, it’s lunacy.
BenjaminNYNY:
Firstly, I note you don’t live here.
Secondly, in 1939 the Jews did not put their fate in the hands of God; arguably we rebelled against him. (I am not giving reasons for the Holocaust; you are.)
Thirdly, Israel did not win a single major war by natural means. What if Egypt had not suddenly stopped in the middle of attacking, giving the Yishuv time to rearm? Or the Syrians in 1973? Or if the surprise in 1967 had not worked? Or (according to some) France forced srael to attack Egypt in 1956?
Whether or not we put our trust in God, he put His trust in us. I have no idea if it will continue, which is why I am against suicidal moves like a two-state solution. My part of the Chareidim, at least, does NOT rely on miracles, which is why we are relatively pacifist. What we are not, is stupid.
I also note that the wars of annihilation stopped after Menachem Begin took steps that led to the expansion of Yeshiva study.
I love Israel but I worry that the only thing that will take it off its current destructive course towards either apartheid or a binational state are some form of international sanctions.
Israel annexes Area C and Areas A and B are self-governed. Arabs there would receive citizenship in Jordan or Saudi Arabia or whatever country except Israel.
You speak as if you can force those countries to give Palestinians citizenship
Of course not Israel can “force” them – Israel must show/convince the US, EU etc. that this would be a better way forward. And through negotiations this would come as a result.
As I assume that you have something personal to do with the US (are you american maybe), I say to you that this could happen at least during a Rubio presidency (maybe also Jeb Bush) but certainly during a Scott Walker presidency.
“Israel must show/convince the US, EU etc. that this would be a better way forward. And through negotiations this would come as a result.”
No, you have to convince the Jordanians or Saudis that this would be a better way — and unless the Messiah comes, it ain’t happening.
If Israel annexes most of the territory, leaving the Palestinians with cramped cantons, the PA will dissolve; Israel will be in charge of millions of Palestinians, whether you like it or not. The world would not – for good reason this time – countenance a situation whereby a country that claims to be a democracy, treats millions of people differently (under martial law) on account of their ethnicity.
BenjaminNYNY,
you are right – it will not happen if the jordanians and saudis are not convinced/forced. BUT the convincing would come from the US – depending on who is the next president.
Is the Clintons in charge, then it will not happen. The Clintons are known to not have a good relationship with the israeli Right. The Clintons only care about themselves and try to be as secretive as possible (as you surely has heard in the american press).
But if the republicans win the White House, they could make the economic and military support to arab countries in the region dependent on the countries giving the arabs in Yesha citizenship. I do not think that Chris Christie would do that, but on the other hand it seems (right now) that he has no chance of even winning the GOP primary (even if Jeb Bush would not run).
As I said before, a Rubio or Bush presidency, even if they both more or less establishment/moderate, might be convinced by Netanyahu/Bennett/.. to go for such a solution.
IF we imagine that Ted Cruz would become president (I realize that the odds are against him), he would willingly pressure the arab states (even without israelis convincing him).
But someone, whose ideology is close to Cruz, and has actually succeeded in politics to get reforms through the system is Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin. Yes, he is a tea party/social conservative/establishment politician, but he has managed to reform his state’s tax- and regulatory systems and reform the education system and reform collective bargaining rights and make Wisconsin a right-to-work state AND STILL HE HAS MANAGED TO WIN A (BIG) MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS AND EVEN SOME DEMOCRATS. He is a man of the working-class/middle-class and has proved that americans do not necessarily need a great education listed on their CVs to get to succeed. And remember his humble background. So if the election comes down to Walker vs Clinton, I would dare to bet on a blue-collar politician like Walker to (easily??) beat an elitist like Clinton. He is a conservative, who would stand by Israel’s side no matter what!
But really I think any nominee will be able to in the end beat the Clintons (assuming Hillary runs). If the democrats nominate a looser like Martin O’Malley, who wants to trash the average american in favor of illigal immigrants, or socialist like Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden, whose presidency would equal Obama’s third term, THEN any republican would win the White House. So actually I think that there is quite a chance to get the US to start changing the conversation about how to solve the israel-arab conflict.
“BUT the convincing would come from the US – depending on who is the next president.
Is the Clintons in charge, then it will not happen. The Clintons are known to not have a good relationship with the israeli Right.”
No one, not even the Americans, can force a deal that the parties do not believe is in their interest. You really must be banking that the Arab states have moderated themselves to the point of not just accepting Israel’s right to exist but that they have become more Zionistic than the majority of Israelis.
You also cannot bank on a very conservative Republican being elected president for two reasons (1) the electoral college favours Democrats and centrists; (2) Israel must retain bi-partisan support. It seems the right-wing is intent on making Israel a wedge issue in US politics; they are succeeding too. While Americans are still broadly pro-Israel, we are seeing a divergment. Democrats are still pro-Israel but increasing numbers feel sympathy for the Palestinians. The young and minorities also are increasingly sympathetic towards the Palestinian narrative. Further, a recent poll showed that 71% of Americans choose Israel being a democracy over Israel being Jewish and that, should a two-state solution fail, the preferred result ought to be One democratic State — which we both realize means the end of Israel as we know it.
Israel, if it is to exist long term, cannot be dependent on conservative republicans always being in the White House.
And so you sit in New York and endanger the lives of us who live here. Shame on you.
Bibi is more popular in the US than he is here. But more to the point, he had to do something. This was NOT a political speech. Obama is not exactly a popular President, BTW. His latest disapproval rating is over 50%, which is not good for an American President.
Bibi compares himself to Churchill. Well Churchill won WW2 and was booted out for a Labour government within months on the basis of social/ economic issues. sometimes it’s just time to go. Ben Gurion too did poorly in his last election run when he left Mapai. There is only one G-d who has yet to appear on a party list.
You have an alternative?
PS – I don’t care about the PM. I care about the party, and the NIF stooges in the Labor/Livni ranks. I do care, very much, about keeping Livni far from any levers of power.
Jeremy,
Any idea if the recent gains by labor & the left is due to voters switching from right to left OR to undecideds beginning to decide & they are trending left?
Thanks!
My vote is for bibi he cares about israel, loves his country and loves the idf …all the left does is complain, they are so upset that the ppl of israel know that thier ideas are bankrupt but still want to push them on us, the issue with left is that they have no respect for jewish religion and want to give away our soul (jerusalem, judea, samaria), its
Time to be honest peace is not around the corner we had over 20yrs of oslo and we have thousands dead many more injured, we have had wars with hezballoh, 3 wars with gaza where do u think the left would have done better as 2 of the wars were left gov, its time for israel to discuss one state solution, we can’t give any more land we have done what we were asked to do based on UN resolution 242 about secure borders, thid is our land!!
Everyone should read carolin glick book one state solution, great read.
Am yisroel chai!!
Bibi will do what’s best for israel, he’s a true leader who went face to face against obama because he believed in his cause no other person would have done that.
So you don’t believe in two state solution. What’s your solution? One state? Annex the territories? And to the Palestinians who live in the territories you will gave them the citizenship?
Give*
So you’re pro-national suicide?
That’s what left has you believe national sucide….cmon the numbers in populatiin in the territory is inflated by 50 %, that is part of the big lie…
Once you annex the territory you can start to be creative and give money to families to leave a nice amount, national sucide is giving more land… we left lebenan buffer we got hezballoh, we left gaza we got hamas, if we would have left golan we would have of had iran or isis, if we leave judea/samaria we would be done…
Wake up there is no solution to this problem, never was never will be.
The arabs tell us everyday how they want to kill us and they want all the land…read the bible this is our land, believe in hashem he will protect us…its clear why in the bible it talks about purchase of marat hamachpela by abraham because ppl will question if this is our land. .
Why is there no issues with all the other countries that came to be in after ww2, syria, egypt, india, saudi, jordan, uae….only israel is a question….
Jordan was suppossed to be part of israel as in the balfour declaration declares, but because of money the gave to king…
Jordan is still part of solution…
Wake up we have one country…
Arbaeem shana bakever al teamino be aravi!!!
1. My question was clear: would you give citizenship to Palestinians who live in the territories? Or you won’t do that thus creating an apartheid State?
2. Lebanon and Gaza are lessons: we mustn’t do an unilateral withdraw from Yesha, we have to make a peace plan which is in line with our security.
3. “There will never be a peace with them”. I have never heard, in 2015, a bigger lie. How can you say that, probably you forgot that we have a peace agreement with Egypt and Jordan, and there were people like you in 1977 who said that a peace agreement with a terrorist like Saadat was impossible. Open-your-mind
“There will never be a peace with them” Richard has opened his mind and that is what he and the majority of Israeli’s and Jews also believe as of now.
Whilst one should never say never, it is clear to many of us who don’t think like namby pamby Western Liberals what their true intents are. Of Course this may change in the future, but that’s how it appears now.
I quote from Mr Lapid who believes in a 2 state solution writing to the guardian on various artists boycotting Israel
“As artists – who by definition are people with imagination – are they willing to take a moment and consider this: let’s imagine that following a call in The Guardian the IDF puts down its weapons and stops protecting the people of Israel for 24 hours – what do they think would happen?” he asked. “If you don’t share the imagination of an artist let me tell you: radical Islamists would kill us all. Women and children first. That’s what they’re doing to their brethren in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen and across the Islamic world. What are the chances that they’d spare us?”
“Pur hands will always be extended for peace, but our fingers will always be on the trigger”. Yitzhak Rabin z”l
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as per peace with sadat there is a big buffer in the Sinai that helps make peace there is no buffer in the West Bank stop dreaming and wake up. just like the other guy answered all liberals dream we on the right believe in realityagain I say wake up and yes if they are willing to be to pledge to the State of Israel I would give them citizenship
This is the question the Left asked way back at the beginning; I remember. you know their other argument? “If it doesn’t work out, we can take it back”. How does that look now?
Get it through your head. THERE IS NO SOLUTION. Not today, not in a decade. If we can pry the residents of the territories’ free of the PA feeding them hate day and night, then maybe in fifty years we can have a real peace.
I’m sorry; it’s no fun. I, for one, would love to see no need for a draft. But I live in the real world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/we.html
I was wrong, but also you: according to the CIA in 2014 there were 2.5 million arabs in Yesha ( 2.8 including the settlers, I forgot them before). However it doesn’t cares so much, it goes to 60%, not 65, and it is going to be 55% in a few years, because of the growth rate.
Richard green,
because of what you support I would think that you would support Bennett, a REAL right-winger. Caroline Glick is amazing, but unfortunately Netanyahu does not seem to agree with her positions.
It is quite an experience to see how people from the Obama camp are trying to change the public narrative by appeasing the Iranian Mullah regime on the one hand and by problematize Israel on the other. Especially around Purim day, that is quite an achivement for liberal Jews.
However, it was not Nethanyahu who impossed sanctions against Iran – which by the way exist since 1979, and which since 2006 are based on UN resolution 1696, because Iran refused to suspend its uranium enrichment program – it is the so called “international community”.
Nothing has changed in reality. The Mullahs still go on and refuse to get uranium (as was offerede several times) from Russia (for instance) instead of an own (uncontrolled) enrichment.
Furthermore not even the Fukushima nuclear disaster makes them wonder, although Iran is a well known earthquake zone as well and even a civil nuclear program actually was very problematic.
However, if “it” is against Israel, formal logic and usual criteria is out of use.
Just watch how many programs on CNN and Co. are sponsored by Qatar & Co. (who also finance Hamas).
Ok… there is a peace plan which is approved by a lot of security officials, we can find it in the facebook page of “יוזמת ז’נבה”.
Do you know that Israel can not be Jewish and democratic at the same time if you annex the territories? This because if you give citizenship to the Palestinians, you will have nearly 50% of the population consisting of Arabs, so it will be difficult to be called a “state of the Jews.” at the same time if you do not want to have 50 (at least) Arab Knesset members, you will not give them citizenship and equal rights, but that means in one word: apartheid.
Those so called security experts are left wing dreamers…. most american generals say israel can not defend the country without west back and jordan valley..
We have given as much as we could no more and if we annexed the land the percentage of jews would be 65 % not 50 and if u live in israel u would know arabs have equal rights they vote they own land how do u call that aparthied, please know your facts israel is the only place that arabs are free.
Richard, i know that NOW the arabs have equal rights. i said that IF you annex Yehuda veShomron, you will annex 3.000.000 palestinians. 3.000.000 + 1.500.000 (the arabs with citizenship now) =4.500.000. then 6.000.000 (the jews living in Israel) + 4.500.000 (the arabs) = 10.500.000 which is the population of Israel annexing Yesha. 6.000.000:x=10.500.000 : 100 –> x= 57% so i was right when i said NEARLY 50%. if you annex also Gaza, where there are 1.500.000 palestinians, here you are the 50&. However the fact is that in this hypothesis, the arab parties would have 40-50 knesset members. And another thing is that the growth rate of the Palestinian population is greater than that of the Jewish population in Israel, so how many years will they have to wait before surpassing us? in the end, in demographic words, the one state solution is a disaster. And also in security words, because while with borders you can defend the jewish citizens with the IDF, if you annex you can’t prevent some of the 4.500.000 to buy a kalashnikov or a knife and start to shoot to everyone who pass.
There are not 3 million Arabs in JS. The official stats are 2 million and there is reason to believe that its less.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/we.html
I was wrong, but also you: according to the CIA in 2014 there were 2.5 million arabs in Yesha ( 2.8 including the settlers, I forgot them before). However it doesn’t cares so much, it goes to 60%, not 65, and it is going to be 55% in a few years, because of the growth rate.
Bennetts plan is the best plan so far although some changes could be made.
The plan that I would propose would have this
– Buffer zone to separate Israel and Judea & Samaria
– Annex area C or at least Gush Etzion (I can’t think of any way to do something about 300,000 Jews in the West Bank)
– Joint security on the Jordan to make sure no foreign terrorist can come into Judea & Samaria
– Work hard to establish PA rule in Gaza.
If the Palestinians attack while they are free we can go ahead and demolish them. They will show the Israel & the international community their true intentions.
Bennett’s plan? Annex area C? Have you got an idea of the map of west bank? Have you got an idea of the costs of that plan?
“If the palestinians… And demolish them”. Don’t you think that an israeli thief or murder and a Palestinian thief or murder are the same? Don’t you think that you’re a little bit generalizing saying that if a Palestinian attacks a Jew you will demolish all the palestinians?
I said he has the best plan so far although changes could be made, which included his idea of annexing all of area C. Something else needs to be done, but there is no perfect solution.
To answer your question. I believe, and I think most other people believe (unless you are on the extreme left & live in a fantasy) that if anyone is going to attack anyone unprovoked it would be the Palestinians attacking Israel. I like how when you quoted me you said “If the Palestinians… and demolish them” you forgot to use an important word, which was attack. If the Palestinians get statehood and they STILL attack Israel then their message is clear, we want all of the land. If this happens Israel should fight Palestinian aggression with extreme force.
ariel,
the security officials also supported the Disengagement – see how that turned out!
Israel annexes area C (50000-75000 arabs which are given citizenship and full rights). Areas A and B are (temporarily) self-governed. Then in the future maybe the arabs there get Jordanian citizenship. PROBLEM SOLVED!
there is not 3 million arabs in Judea and samaria the number is closer to 1.5 million, that is the BS the left has us believe go read the book one state solution and you will see the truth, when Israel had the terrortories up until 1993 the census count on the arabs was about 1.2 mil in west bank so the numbers today are about scaring us to believe that they will overtake us its not true..
we are not talking about gaza as gaza we are out of they can do what they want there..
you cant take out the heart of a nation and expect to survive..
as for the growth rate you are so wrong the jewish growth rate is the highest in the western world and as for the arab birth rate it has been going down the past 15 years go look up the REAL facts and
not some fabricated facts that media at those left leaning newspapers create… those arabs in west bank would love to get rid of PA who are all corrupt at least under Israel they will be free, as for other options I would offer a certain amount of families the option to move out of terrortories we would offer 500,000 to a certain amount of families first come will get this money and they will move to another country with cash in hand this would be cheaper than going to war again…
we can probably find about 500,000 ppl willing to leave..
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/we.html
I was wrong, but also you: according to the CIA in 2014 there were 2.5 million arabs in Yesha ( 2.8 including the settlers, I forgot them before). However it doesn’t cares so much, it goes to 60%, not 65, and it is going to be 55% in a few years, because of the growth rate. My source about the growth rate is the Israel central bureau of statistics, it isn’t a “leftist newspaper”
Israeli arabs growth rate: 2.2%
Israeli Jews growth rate: 1.7%
Palestinians growth rate: 2%
For what concerns your solution with the money, which in your opinion can “buy” people, you have to know that if we annex the territories all the Arab countries will attack as (yes, another time) and if we annex we will lost all the money that America gives us to finance pur wars, the iron dome, the f-35, ecc…
Ariel, guess from where the CIA data comes – from the ARABS THEMSELVES! So the numbers are surely MUCH lower. And you know, many would right now move away if they were let out by PA and if arab states would agree to take care of them. BUT the arab states need this conflict to be alive – otherwise the citizens of the arab states start to concentrate on the real problems in their societies and then the dictator-royalties would soon fall.
Cia reports comes from pa census they are misleading and way off, go read the book, one state solution. .u will change your thoughts…
The right tells the truth, the left tells fairy tales.
The left is against others beliefs just like they trying to shut down israel hayom newspaper they hate our religion but respect arab religion, this is our only country..
And believe that without israel all jews would be threatened around the world.
We are not isolated as the left says, our economy is growing more than ever, the world wants to do business with us look at growth with india, japan, china, africa, we are blessed and we have hashems protection when we are together.
How many yrs and negotiating will it take till PA makes some consessions, I am still waiting for the first consession from them, there views have not changed from day one.
This is our land…if they don’t like it we can help them move.
Ariel
Where do u live?
America needs israel its not a one way relationship…
F35, we helped build it.
As for so called money america gives us is to help America economy as all the money must be spent in america…
Its time for israel to stop taking money from america they don’t need it…
Hashem is with us: I agree with you, I am from bnei akiva so I am not the leftist-atheist who you are probably thinking I am. However I think it’s enough for today, “the left lies and the right says the truth” it means that it’s useless to continue discussing. I was born in rehovot, now I’m in Italy but I hope I will return soon because my heart is in Israel. However some things makes me re-think this my opinion of return.
“Cia reports comes from pa census they are misleading and way off, go read the book, one state solution. .u will change your thoughts…”
I’ve read Caroline Glick’s book. It is a total crock. And I’ll tell you exactly why:
1.) Her stats, where she says that Palestinian population and growth rates are much lower than commonly stated, are based on the studies done by Mr. Yoram Ettinger. Mr. Ettinger however, is not a statistician nor a demographer — he’s a CPA by trade. Nothing wrong with being a CPA, Accounting is a fine profession, but it isn’t demography or stats. Ettinger’s work has also not been submitted for peer review. If he, and Glick, are so sure of their numbers, surely they would submit the study to academic peer review publications specializing in Statistics/Demographics? That they have not is, well, grounds for serious suspicion.
2.) While correctly noting that Arab birthrates have declined, Ms. Glick ignores a fundemantal point — the Arab population is younger than the Israeli-Jewish one. Therefore, even at reduced birthrates, Arabs have a higher fecundity.
3.) Ms. Glick makes wild assumptions about Aliyah (when I saw her at the Jerusalem Post conference she was so thrilled to report the 200 lolim Israel just got from Belgium) while completely discounting the number of olim who return to their home countries, Israelis who emigrate, and the 500,000+ Israelis who live abroad and may never return.
4.) Caroline Glick doesn’t actually advocate annexation and citizenship. She says annexation and a “path” to citizenship, but it is only potential and one can surmise this path will be very, very arduous. This is apartheid in all but name. When a country annexes a territory – the inhabitants get, or have the automatic right to get, citizenship. That’s international law. You can occupy territory and not extend civil law to the inhabitants but you cannot annex it and leave the people of the territory stateless.
BenjaminNYNY , you say that about Mr. Yoram Ettinger, but as his his information is in the public forum I find it interesting that no one has disproved any of it. As for the Arab population being younger , be thankful to the haredim for largely compensation for that issue.
Actually Judah, Ettinger’s work has been rebuffed by, you know, actual demographers like Prof Sergio Pegola (considered the leading demographer in Israel).
Ultimately, Ettinger and Glick rely on a lot of rosy assumptions — is that really what you want to stake Israel’s future on? As if Jews have had the best of luck over the generations!
And no, the Haredim don’t make up for it because (a) they are still outnumbered more than 4:1 by the Palestinians and (b) they are not Zionist and a growing drain on the Israeli economy.
You don’t think it matters whether Israel is a first world or a third world country?
Ariel,
as you live in Bnei Akiva, one would think that you do not want to give up your neighboring land to a terrorist regime that will start to drop bomb and fire rockets/missiles at your house.
BenyaminNYNY i know very well Sergio Della Pergola, he teaches in the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and he is a great demographer. He wrote a book in which he explains very well why, in demographic terms, the one-state solution it’s a suicide.